gameranger supports a boatload of games to now include DF1-DFBHD and Joint Ops.
Gameranger is a server lobby similar to DFFAVES, but the servers are run through lan. anyone who has GameRanger can see and join your server. this
program exposes our community to over 25k+ players at any given time. i personally have seen 29k+ already and have had the program barely 3 weeks
now.
i think its a great tool to have since we dont know if favs will ever come back online.
so download it and lets see some more servers!!!!
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posted on 31-12-12 at 17:48
This is new to me... So your saying if i get on JO & play a mission I can play against anyone, anywhere,
without going threw a Nova Server?
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posted on 31-12-12 at 19:50
Sounds cool! Do you know if you can host games with mods? I would like to play some AW2 & SGMOD with a ton of people.
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posted on 31-12-12 at 20:48
Sorry, but this is bullshit. You can only host JO by going either over Novaworld or doing a VPN connection with LAN with for example Tunngle, Hamachi
and other tools of that kind. The only thing that GameRanger does when you set it up for JO is that it opens a Chatlobby for the Game you wanna do,
where you can for example invite people to. After starting JO you're still at the usual point, either go to Nova or do LAN with above mentioned tools
or just locally. Nothing else works.
Not sure why this is even mentioned in the supported Game List.
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I hate to disagree with you, but I got on today, it works perfectly fine. I was also able to play it with "MODS". To play LAN games with a mod, you
can just go to Typhoon Rising and switch the mod in options.
I think GameRanger is a great tool for playing Joint Ops, it works a ton better than Hamachi & COMODO. I hate how you have to set everything up, and
sometimes you wouldn't be able to see any games. I'm not quite sure how Tunngle works, but with GameRanger all you have to do is create an account &
start hosting or joining games.
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posted on 1-1-13 at 20:07
Well I gotta tell ya. When I tried it the program locked up on me.
Wolfseye, have you tried this program?
How do you know it is just a Chat Lobby?
I do not believe that jabo1SFH and $!L3NT_J would intentionally
mislead the rest of us. I did take the time to go to the site & have a look around.
This program does seem to do what they claim.
Below are some random things I pulled from the site:
October 14, 2012
FlatOut 2 (and others) on GameRanger
Seems like the official servers for a number of games have just been shut down without warning.
SWAT 4, Empire Earth II, and FlatOut 2 were among those affected.
SWAT 4 and Empire Earth II were already supported in GameRanger, and now FlatOut 2 is also supported so that those players will have a new home.
If you know anyone that plays any of these affected games, or if you know any of the communities and clans for these games, let them know that they
can come to GameRanger. These are all great games, and there's no reason to let them die off now.
December 10, 2012
Delta Force and Joint Operations games on GameRanger
These games are now playable on GameRanger:
Delta Force
Delta Force 2
Delta Force: Land Warrior
Delta Force: Task Force Dagger
Delta Force: Black Hawk Down
Delta Force: Black Hawk Down: Team Sabre
Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising
Joint Operations: Escalation
December 14, 2012
Sniper Elite rescued!
Sniper Elite very recently had its servers shut down without warning. You can now play it online again thanks to GameRanger!
July 11, 2012
GameRanger Hits 3 Million Members! (Press Release)
GameRanger has now reached a massive 3 million registered users!
Congratulations everyone on being part of this!
Seems like if it were just a Chat Lobby it wouldn't need to be game specific.
And it has 3 Million members. Seems a bit too popular for just a chat server.
But like I said I couldnt get it to work on my system. So I cant really say for sure.
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posted on 1-1-13 at 21:16
i personally have not tried jo with it yet.
mods should be no problem. gameranger locates the game .exe.
josh, i think if you are running win8 that they may have an issue or two somewhere. i had no isuues so far running gameranger in win xp or win7.
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posted on 1-1-13 at 22:38
im playing in my joic dedi server right now.
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Originally posted by $!L3NT_J
I hate to disagree with you, but I got on today, it works perfectly fine. I was also able to play it with "MODS". To play LAN games with a mod, you
can just go to Typhoon Rising and switch the mod in options.
I think GameRanger is a great tool for playing Joint Ops, it works a ton better than Hamachi & COMODO. I hate how you have to set everything up, and
sometimes you wouldn't be able to see any games. I'm not quite sure how Tunngle works, but with GameRanger all you have to do is create an account &
start hosting or joining games.
It still doesn't change the fact that either with Novaworld or LAN (Local or VPN) you can't host JO at all, thats a fact that no tool, whatever name
can change.
Besides, Hamachi & Comodo VPN sucks (which is a personal opinion btw.) and Tunngle is much easier to use. There is really no need for a Tool like
GameRanger, because what can GameRanger do what other tools can't ???
Please give me an example that we can discuss. Whats the real benefit of GameRanger ? And I am just talking in the case of Joint Operations or any
other Novalogic Game.
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Originally posted by Wolfseye
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Originally posted by $!L3NT_J
I hate to disagree with you, but I got on today, it works perfectly fine. I was also able to play it with "MODS". To play LAN games with a mod, you
can just go to Typhoon Rising and switch the mod in options.
I think GameRanger is a great tool for playing Joint Ops, it works a ton better than Hamachi & COMODO. I hate how you have to set everything up, and
sometimes you wouldn't be able to see any games. I'm not quite sure how Tunngle works, but with GameRanger all you have to do is create an account &
start hosting or joining games.
It still doesn't change the fact that either with Novaworld or LAN (Local or VPN) you can't host JO at all, thats a fact that no tool, whatever name
can change.
Besides, Hamachi & Comodo VPN sucks (which is a personal opinion btw.) and Tunngle is much easier to use. There is really no need for a Tool like
GameRanger, because what can GameRanger do what other tools can't ???
Please give me an example that we can discuss. Whats the real benefit of GameRanger ? And I am just talking in the case of Joint Operations or any
other Novalogic Game.
Ok, like I said, I have never tried tunngle. (It sounds like Google's side-kick)
I didn't say that it "still doesn't change that fact either with Novaworld or LAN (Local or VPN) you can't host JO at all". I said "I works
perfectly fine".
All I said is that GameRanger is good for hosting games. My friends suck at setting up a VPN. There isn't a problem with that is there? What more do
you need? If you want to know the real benefit of using GameRanger, why don't you try it? It has a ton of games you can choose from, including the
Novalogic games.
If you want to continue using Tunngle, that's fine I have no problem with that, but GameRanger is still the topic.
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posted on 2-1-13 at 07:37
So what is the Official Verdict here?... Can game Ranger Host a JO game. If not then why not? & If not then why does it seem to make the claim?
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Ok,fact is that all you achieve when starting JO via GameRanger, that it starts the Game and you get into the Main Menu, like you would start JO
manually with your Desktop Icon. Thats it. There is no direct Connect or startup a Server without the usual, either go through Novaworld or via LAN
(locally or via VPN tools). GameRanger cant even create a LAN connection since it doesnt install any kind of VPN Network Adapter.
What it does however is to put itself the Game Ranger Server name into the game.cfg, without asking. So all you are going to see on either Novaworld
or LAN (locally) after going through the usual starting up a Server, is a Server with a Servername that has GameRanger in its name, thats all. For
that there isnt any need since i can do all that myself. Basically, since GameRanger cant go around the fact that either Novaworld or LAN is required
to host, its pointless for any Novalogic related Game.
It might be different with other, more IP based games that dont rely o
n a centralized Serversystem like Novaworld. But since all this talk about the benefits of GameRanger and its supposedly Support for Novalogic Games,
I dont see what the point of Game Ranger is. And btw, I tried it out the first time I read about it here. And thats why I know there is no point to
Game Ranger and Novalogic Games.
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posted on 2-1-13 at 08:25
Well you got further than I did then... I click on the JointOps.exe & the thing freezes... Normally Id assume its because I as a rule only use less
then Legit software... However JO is 1 of 3 programs Ive actually paid for. So my copy of that is legit. Maybe its my Less than Legit OS...lmao
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posted on 2-1-13 at 13:47
The fallowing is taken from Wikipedia....
"GameRanger is an Internet gaming service for the Macintosh and Windows computing platforms.
The service includes custom software and unlike other gaming services is not strictly web-based.
The service is regulated, updated and administered by Scott Kevill.
In addition to hosting and playing games the service acts as a chat room with varied topics."
Wiki clearly claims it is a Server System with Chat Capabilities.
Maybe since Nova Games are new there they dont understand what can & cant yet be done with Nova games...
I really dont know.
Wolfseye's comment about the VPN however does seem to be reasonable.
Personally I dont see why it couldnt be done.
I would think that if crappy Nova can accomplish a server system that functions someone else could too.
But Im not big into hosting games & VPN networks n such.
Im sure he has a much better idea of these things than I do.
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posted on 2-1-13 at 15:29
Really not want to hijack this thread to something else, but Thor and I host a few LAN Servers via Tunngle on a permanent basis and I'd prefer that
connection over the Novaworld one every day of the week. And that is the only way you can enjoy JO without any isaues or trouble from Nova that you
can really enjoy.
If you want Josh, I can contact you about these things on a more personal level via PM and I can show you how if you like.
As for GameRanger, I dont say the idea of the Program is bad or anything, though Gaming worked fine without it. But as long as Novalogic does things
the way they do with their Games, its not really of any concern for players of these Games. For other Games it maybe makes more sense, but thats
it.
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posted on 3-1-13 at 19:12
well, i got jo to work(win7) so its a non issue for me. i even ran the server as ic4. no problems. no, i did not need to log into novaworld to do it
either.
the best thing about it is that it works well for the older games and that itself is a plus since no one knows if dffavs is ever coming back online
and some people still enjoy playing df1-dfbhd.
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posted on 3-1-13 at 21:22
Ok, if you incist, then please help us out.
Please make a video where you show us step by step from going into GameRanger and then start a JO Server without logging into Novaworld or using LAN
and hosting a Server. If that what you say is all true, you wouldn't mind doing that. Right ? Because as you say it works.
So now we all wait for that Video to prove that it works.
Thank you.
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posted on 3-1-13 at 22:58
well, i currently have a joic server running. no login. load up game ranger, find my server, highlight my server then click the join button in gr.
when the game loads up, go to options, choose expansions, then click the ic mod.
once you do all that, click the lan button, then search. once my server shows up in the lan list join in.
once you get into my server, let me know how many time you login..
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posted on 3-1-13 at 23:52
took server down to upload vid. about 15 mins or so and ill put the vid link here.
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Ok, that was funny. Because all you did is make a note (thats what I call it) in GameRanger that you're hosting a Game (Server List). Then you start
JO (change to IC but that doesn't matter) and still need to click on LAN to start your own Server. So what for I need GameRanger to start a Game in
LAN if I still have to start it manually ?
But now, and this is really where I laughed (sorry!) but you moved to your other Desk in your room. Did the same stuff there, just in this case you
clicked JOIN instead of HOST in GameRanger. Still had to go into the Game, go to LAN and join your own LOCAL LAN !!! Sorry, but that didn't show at
all that GameRanger is any help with JO hosting or joining a Game. All that GameRanger does is announce your Server on the GameRanger Serverlist,
thats all.
Since you joined your other PC in your own LOCAL LAN *lol* ... of course you see your Server. Others however, outside your LOCAL LAN cannot join you
or even find your Server, no matter if you announce it on GameRanger in the Serverlist or not.
Now with using LAN, you would still need a VPN Tool ala Tunngle, Hamachi or whatever so other people outside your LOCAL LAN can even see it and join
you. So all that GameRanger does is make a Server show up in their Serverlist. However that doesn't help at all.
Thanks for the video though, enjoyed it.
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posted on 4-1-13 at 19:13
ok. ill see if another player can join. i just did that quickly before bed.
ill set something up soon and make another vid.
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posted on 4-1-13 at 20:09
here ya go. no sooner that my server loaded, a client joined in. another client joined after i made the vid.
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The second video doesn't even show how you started to host the Game. It might as well was through Novaworld or LAN
(using VPN tools) because you don't show that. Fact is, GameRanger does notinclude a Virtual Network
Adapter, which is required to use LAN through the Internet.
If you want to show me your Network Adapter List in your Windows in a Video and show me you have in fact a Virtual Network Adapter in there which
comes from GameRanger, that would be a start to prove that what you're saying it works.
I am not stupid, I know what a Game needs to go through LAN, over the Internet and outside your Local Lan.
So far you haven't confirmed what you're saying that GameRanger can do with JO.
Your videos only show pieces of what you're saying.
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posted on 4-1-13 at 22:21
well, lets just leave it at that. you dont believe in GR, thats your choice. how the guts of GR works is probably a question you should direct to the
people in charge of it.
i set up NO vpn on my end. all i do is tell GR what game i want to host, click the buttons and off it goes.
i know it works and so do others. thats all that matters to me.
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